Tuesday, February 12, 2013

JOHN GREEN Writes a New Essay in Support of the Upright Ape and Gigantopithecus Theories as Explanations for Bigfoot


BIGFOOT'S BLOG
Mid-February 2013 Edition


HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY TO JOHN GREEN, THE "MOSES" OF SASQUATCH RESEARCH. HE IS 86 YEARS OLD TODAY.

What follows was sent to me by Canadian researcher, Bill Miller, on behalf of John Green. It asserts some novel ideas about the evolution of hominins, but also reiterates the long-held theory that Bigfoot actually is (or is a descendant of) an already known species, the supposedly extinct giant ape, Gigantopithecus blacki.

I asked John a question about this and got a nice, long reply from him. That, too, is included below (exclusive to this blog), used by permission.

Although it appears to have been overlooked by all media for several years the material presented below will inevitably become one of the greatest news stories of the century.

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Sometimes It Pays to Be Not a Scientist.

BY JOHN GREEN

Dr. Aaron Filler, in his 2007 book “The Upright Ape,” presented ample evidence that all higher primates have been bipedal, walking upright on two feet, for over 20 million years.

You don’t have to be a spine surgeon, which Dr. Filler is as well as being a Ph,D. anthropologist, to see that a fossilized lower back vertebrae from an African site dated at 21 million years is almost identical to the corresponding vertebrae of a modern human.

Although there are fossil bones, and fossil footprints, showing that primitive higher primates throughout the ages have walked upright, and there are no fossils that suggest that any were quadrupeds, scientists who have been taught, and teach, that human ancestors invented bipedalism after they came down from the trees and split off from the chimpanzees do not seem able to get the message

In a special edition of Scientific American dated Winter 2013 and titled “What Makes Us Human” none of the 16 authors showed any awareness of Dr. Filler’s book, and several had things to say based on the old mistaken consensus.

But are not chimpanzees quadrupeds? They are plainly trying to be, but they can not really do it because they have the spines of upright animals. With their backs at an angle of about 45% they get around very well using the knuckles of their hands for front feet but they can not ever be normal quadrupeds because their spines do not have the proper attachments to keep them from buckling under load in a horizontal position.

And what Dr. Filler does not say, even though he has presented the facts that establish it, is that there is now no shred of evidence that recent human forbears ever lived in trees.

To quote something that Dr. Filler does say, most eloquently: “In questioning and rejecting scientific orthodoxy, no mass of credentials will convince a spurned scientist that he or she should give way and accept that they have spent a career believing, teaching, and publishing in error.”

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Two thirds of Dr. Filler’s book presents an historical overview and then outlines a new look at the origin of species which will undoubtedly be controversial, but the material regarding the origin of human bipedalism contained in the last two chapters is simple to understand and rock-solidly based on physical evidence.

And an interesting sidelight to the proof that all higher primates have been bipeds:
John Green on Onion Mountain Road, above
Bluff Creek, 1967.


Until perhaps as recently as 100,000 years ago there lived in China, as established by three fossil lower jaws and a thousand fossil teeth, a giant ape twice the size of a gorilla. Since as a higher primate it must have been upright it matches perfectly the huge, very heavy, manlike footprints which human ingenuity is unable to duplicate, and the immense hair-covered bipeds that thousands of people claim to have seen in Canada and the United States.

It follows that the many people who investigate Bigfoot/Sasquatch reports need to realize that their quarry isn’t likely to be some unknown creature sure to be a close human relative because it walks upright, but a proven animal that lived near the land bridge to North America and that already has a scientific name, Gigantopithecus-blacki.

John Green, 
February 2013
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Here is the link to the Filler book on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Upright-Ape-New-Origin-Species/dp/1564149331
I asked Bill the following, and he sent the question to John:

BIGFOOT BOOKS: Can you provide the date of composition, and a good link to the subject/article or whatever John is responding to here? Has this been posted or published elsewhere?
I'm happy to post this, but I normally like better attribution and context, for citation.
Thanks, Steve

Here is Bill's reply:

BILL MILLER: John wanted as many places that would mention this book to do so ... I posted it on West Coast Sasquatch after I emailed you. John sent me the letter a couple of days or so ago.

Here is John's reply:
JOHN GREEN: Steve,
Look up "The Upright Ape" on Amazon. The author, Aaron Filler, took a PhD in anthropology, during which he studied a vertebrae almost identical to its human counterpart that was found in an archaeological dig in material firmly dated at 21 million years. Later he studied medicine and became a spine surgeon, an unusual and perhaps unique combination of qualifications. He also researched the history of theories before Darwin's about how living things evolved. His book deals with that history and he presents a theory that all major changes resulted not from accumulated gradual adaptions but from extreme individual mutations. That is what most of the book is about, and it would be hard going for the average Sasquatch enthusiast.. However:

In the last two chapters he deals with what I have mentioned, that there is no fossil evidence that any higher primates were ever quadrupeds. All the fossil evidence shows that they all walked upright. There are no fossils leading to the chimpanzee, bonobo and gorilla, which walk half upright today, and their spines prove that they were originally bipedal.

Remember that not long ago humans were believed to have split off from the gorillas and chimpanzees some millions of years ago, but then immune reactions and DNA established that gorillas split off from the basic stock first, while chimpanzees and bonobos remain very closely related to humans, not to.gorillas. This cuts short the time that humans were supposed to have had to come down from the trees and evolve into bipeds. The evidence is plain that Homo Sapiens as well as the others arbitrarily called Homo or Australopithicus or Gigantopithecus etc. follow the basic upright pattern and it is the gorillas and the chimps that are evolving a new way of walking. Both are called knucklewalkers, but the adaptions that allow them to use their arms in walking are not the same, while the orangs, even though they are much more evolved to be tree dwellers, follow a very different pattern which includes considerable bipedalism and the gibbons, although always in the trees, are fully bipedal.

Someone many years ago came up with the theory that humans were quadrupeds that became upright through living in trees and then came down to earth, continued to walk upright and evolved feet adapted for walking on two legs. That theory became almost universally accepted a long time ago and is considered by most scientists dealing with such matters to be established fact. I expect Filler isn't the only skeptic, but he is the one with unique qualifications and the guts to challenge the prevailing belief in a book.

I happen to have an atlas of primate anatomy with detailed drawings of vertebrae of baboon, chimpanzee and human. It showed immediately that human and chimp vertebrae are almost the same while those of the baboon, a real quadruped, are basically different. Since humans and chimps are designed to support their weight with a stack of vertebrae that rest on top of each other they have no attachments on the main bone column for locking the spine together in a horizontal position. You don't need an atlas, you can look up illustrations on the Internet.

So Filler is presenting proof that most scientists are dead wrong about human evolution. If that isn't a big story I am not a journalist.

John Green
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BIGFOOT BOOKS: Hi John,

Yes, this is fascinating. To me, the knuckle-walking is adequate enough to show that the apes are not true quadrupeds, but are walking on hands with a somewhat awkward-seeming re-adaptation to quadrupedal locomotion. A full quadruped would, I think, not be doing something so seemingly awkward as walking on knuckles. This puts their hands in a rather vulnerable position, too, it seems to me. I'm no expert in skeletal anatomy, but I will look into the book you have mentioned.

It seems to me that huge new discoveries about human (and potentially Sasquatch) evolution are always right around the corners these days, and progress in understanding is expanding geometrically.

I'm wondering if I may also publish your follow-up letter here with the original essay Bill sent me? Also, any further words would of course be appreciated.

Thanks!

May I ask one further question?
[EDITED OUT. FURTHER CONVERSATION REQUESTED TO BE PRIVATE BY JOHN. THIS REGARDED SOME ESOTERIC BLUFF CREEK STUFF.]

I hope all is well with you.
Best regards, Steve

Note:
The original piece above was also published in the latest issue of the BIGFOOT TIMES newsletter.
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Monday, January 21, 2013

GPS COORDINATES FOR THE BLUFF CREEK PATTERSON-GIMLIN BIGFOOT FILM SITE AREA

BIGFOOT'S BLOG
Supplementary, January 21st Edition


Enlargement of detail of our widely published PGF Site grid map,
GPS reading clearly seen.
Click to Enlage, if you have to do so to read the numbers.
Certain "critics" of the BLUFF CREEK FILM SITE PROJECT have repeatedly cropped up saying things like we have not been open with the results of our PGF site research, and have been "secretive" about the true site location and coordinates. REALLY? I suppose the 72 videos we have done so far were not enough? Nor all of the blog entries right here that discuss the matter? Not even the maps published here that show exactly where the site is, along with GPS locations clearly marked? Not all the countless phone calls and visitors I've spent endless hours with in helping them find the place? Oh well.

To make it easier for everyone... HERE THEY ARE:  41,26.412, -123,42.115. 
That is right by the Patterson camera position. That reading is from Robert Leiterman's Garmin GPS device. Here is a map, with data points marked:
Upper Bluff Creek, area of the PGF stie. The Bigfoot film action occurs around "Leiterman 2 up to "Big Stump."
CLICK TO ENLARGE.

















Here is some data for you:
TOPO! GPS  Data  Format  DegMin  NAD83  ElevFeet  Local-Time
AL-Hodgson site, 41,25.520, -123,43.198, NA, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 09-OCT-10 12:49:55PM
Berm, 41,26.501, -123,41.966,2883, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 2:17:40PM
Big Stump, 41,26.450, -123,42.090,2606, 11/12/2011, 15:52:00, 09-OCT-11 4:07:13PM
BigRock, 41,26.281, -123,42.482, 2424, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 09-OCT-10 2:17:22PM
CellSpot, 41,20.554, -123,39.680, 4065, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 21-AUG-10 1:23:13PM
CellSpot1, 41,25.659, -123,40.101,4337, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 21-AUG-10 2:18:23PM
CellSpot2, 41,23.894, -123,38.799, 4209,10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 21-AUG-10 1:45:41PM
CellSpot3, 41,17.565, -123,43.786, 3497, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 22-AUG-10 6:13:05PM
Clearing, 41,26.295, -123,42.157, 2620, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 2:42:31PM
Dozer, 41,26.297, -123,42.151, 2532, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 18-SEP-10 1:15:58PM
EastBatBox, 41,26.303,-123,42.357, NA,11/12/2011, 15:52:00, 27-JAN-10 3:36:40PM
Leiterman1, 41,26.457, -123,42.180,2729, 11/05/2011, 16:26:13,
Leiterman2, 41,26.412, -123,42.115, 2544, 11/05/2011, 17:23:21,
Opening, 41,25.673, -123,43.223, 2340, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 09-OCT-10 12:50:42PM
ParkingMud, 41,26.316, -123,41.468, 3139, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 18-SEP-10 12:36:10PM
Rebar, 41,25.297, -123,43.283,NA,10/12/2010,04:56:24,09-OCT-10 12:03:43PM
RockSlide, 41,26.405, -123,42.003, 2889, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 2:24:18PM
Stream1, 41,26.266, -123,42.158, 2615, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 2:44:27PM
Stream2, 41,26.209, -123,42.457, 2487, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 5:36:25PM
TwinLakes, 41,19.203, -123,39.989, 3719, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 21-AUG-10 1:03:27PM
View1, 41,26.348, -123,42.031, 2600, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 2:31:37PM
View2, 41,26.312, -123,42.068, 3002, 10/12/2010, 04:56:24, 10-OCT-10 4:12:12PM

These readings were taken by Ian C., BLUFF CREEK FILM SITE PROJECT founding member around the area and at the film site. The two "Leiterman" readings are the film site itself, added later to the above, though the reading for the upper maker was incorrect due to poor satellite reception down in the canyon at the time. The lower reading may be used on Google Earth and other places to find the exact position of the start of the film action. Some of the points above are off the map given, but still in the area, and may be useful to all.
Here is an early map sketch published a LONG time ago now on this blog.
Note the GPS coordinates we got at that time for the site of the first sighting, as per
the memory of Bob Gimlin. CLICK TO ENLARGE.
From Ian: "Finally dumped my GPS onto the computer.  The actual coordinates are below.  The Leiterman waypoints are from the grid work, I manually added them.  The Leiterman1 location is certainly bad, it is about 200 vertical feet above the creek!  However, that is what you get from a GPS down in there. The rest of my waypoints I have very high confidence in; they match up well with where I thought I was on the map at the time."
In case that wasn't obvious enough, here it is again, BIGGER.
Here is the latest map of the area that we have done. It is still being expanded and slightly revised. Note the GPS readings are on there, too.
2012 PGF Site Map. CLICK TO ENLARGE.
Here is what it looks like on Google Earth. Note that their notation differs in formatting.
Google Earth, around the PGF site. CLICK TO ENLARGE.
Thanks for reading, this time. I do hope I don't have to answer these same questions over and over again for the rest of my life.

Here are some images for you of the trip we did there this last summer, just for fun.

Here is a group photo from down in Louse Camp.
Bluff Creek Trip GROUP SHOT.jpg 
Back row: Todd Hale, Tom Yamarone, Steven Streufert, Ian C., Daniel Perez, Rowdy Kelley, Terry Smith, Scott McClean, Cliff Barackman
Front row: James Bobo Fay, Francis and Robert Leiterman, Bill Munns
Foreground: Monkey and Pre


Here is another, on the site right on the trackway, to include all members...
Group Shot at Site.jpg 
Cliff Barackman, Ian C., Rowdy Kelley, Todd Hale, Jamie Snowhorse, Robert and Francis Leiterman, Bart Cutino, Terry Smith, James Bobo Fay, Bill Munns and myself.
(Missing Richard L., the retired USFS hydrologist who joined us the first day, and Scott and Tom who stayed in camp.)


Here are the original BLUFF CREEK FILM SITE PROJECT guys, reunited with Ian's return...
Bluff Creek Project GROUP 2012.jpg 
Steve, Ian, Robert and Rowdy, in front of the Big Trees. 

Here is an image of Bill Munns just after he first saw the Big Tree, and then started pointing out the others seen in the background of the PGF.
Munns at Big Tree.jpg 
There you have it.
See ya.

ADDENDUM:
Here is a travelogue with descriptions of the route that Ian C. (crazy_ian) published on the old Bigfoot Forums back in 2007 from a trip in 2006. NOTE: Some factors may have changed since then. Enjoy.

So you want to visit the site of the Patterson-Gimlin Film? by CrazyIan

Background
The film itself has been discussed and analyzed on for almost 40 years. I will not try to add to the great information already in print and online. In short, I find the film very compelling evidence that there is a large unknown hominid roaming the Pacific Northwest, for the basic reason that in four decades no one has been able to demonstrate how it could be faked.

According to generally accepted information, the film was taken about 1:30 on the afternoon of Friday October 20, 1967 on Bluff Creek in Northern California. The actual site is in the Orleans Ranger District of the Six Rivers National Forest in Del Norte County, very close to the borders with Humboldt and Siskiyou Counties. The nearest town is Orleans in Humboldt County.

Getting There
The only main road to the area is Highway 96, the Bigfoot Highway. Coming from the north, 96 meets Interstate 5 between Yreka and the Oregon border. It is about 140 miles on 96 to Orleans. If you are coming from the south, leave I-5 at Redding and take 299 west about 100 miles to Willow Creek. Turn right onto 96 and go about 35 miles to Orleans. From Orleans, the fastest way in is to take 15N01 (on some maps just called 15) north. The sign in Orleans calls this Eyesee road, other forest service signs alternately refer to 15 as the G-O road. As a side bar, the G-O road was originally conceived in the 1970's as a connector between the towns of Gasquet and Orleans. For political reasons, the final miles in the middle were never completed; that area is now in the Siskiyou Wilderness. Just know there may be multiple local names for the roads, so I prefer using numbers for identification. Be sure to stop into the Ranger Station at Orleans for the latest road conditions; just remember like most Forest Service offices, they are only open weekdays, usually 9:00-4:30.

15N01 is paved all the way to the end at Elk Valley, about 30 miles, but you don't need to go that far. To get to the film site go about 17 miles and take a left onto 12N12, Cedar Camp Road. This road is also paved. Go about 1.5 miles and take a right onto 12N13. In October 2006, there was a small handwritten sign "Sasquatch Road" at this intersection. The road becomes gravel, but was easily passable on my trip. Now you are getting close. At about 3.5 miles take a right onto 12N13H. It's about 2.4 miles down to the creek, but if you are driving a regular car, you may want to walk down. The road is basically okay, but narrow enough to scratch paint at the top. Near the bottom there is a section prone to landslides and covered in wet leaves. My Xterra made it back and forth in 2WD without problems, but a rear wheel drive pickup did a little wheel spinning before getting out. The slightest rain or snow would make it a real challenge.

Anyway, 12N13H ends at Bluff Creek. There's a small clearing with a fire ring and two, currently knocked down, bat nesting boxes. Here's where it gets interesting. Some researchers feel the exact spot the film was taken is to the left, down stream. Others feel it is upstream. I spoke with researchers who supported both opinions. I'm not going to name names, or say who's in each camp, but both views have some factual support, and I have a lot of respect for everyone involved.

Eventually I spent several hours hiking up and down the creek with print-outs from the film, and I believe it is just not possible to objectively identify the exact location. I did find two large Douglas Firs that could be the one seen in the background of the early frames. The under story in that area is so thick that there is no way to recreate any of the shots from the film. The creek has also moved around a lot over the years and has suffered severe flooding. Also, the road bed that Patterson and Gimlin followed is gone except for a few scattered places.

Once you are done at the film site, go back up to 12N13. If you continue west the road descends from the ridge top down into the Bluff Creek valley. After about 4 miles you will cross a concrete bridge (over Bluff Creek), less than a mile further there's another concrete bridge over Notice Creek, and just past this bridge is a left turn into Louse Camp.

Maps
Any good highway map will get you to Orleans. >From there I strongly recommend the Forest Service map for the Six Rivers National Forest. You can get it at any local ranger station, or order it by calling the National Forest Store at 406-329-3024. You can also find a good quality scan here: http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sixrivers/maps/north/

The USGS 7.5 minute quad of the site is called Lonesome Ridge. The National Geographic Topo! Software for California is also very handy. It has all the topo maps for the state on CD, plus you can hook up a GPS and/or download maps to a PDA. The Delorme Gazeteer for Northern California is recommended as a good source of intermediate scale maps.

Alternate Routes
Bluff Creek Road, 13N01 will also get into the general area. It starts on 96 a few miles south of
Orleans. It runs 36 miles to join 15N01 about 10 miles south of Elk Valley. It is a good road,
paved all the way, but the Forest Service closes a few miles around Fish Lake each fall to prevent
the spread of a plant disease, so it's not a through road for a large part of the year. When it is
open, it is about 21 miles from 96 to the intersection with 12N10, which will take you to Louse
Camp. From there you can backtrack to the film site. One warning, in October 2006, I crossed a
small landslide on 12N10 near Laird Meadows. It had been packed down by other traffic and
was no problem for a high clearance vehicle, but it might hang up a regular passenger car. The
entire area is subject to this sort of thing, so be prepared!

You can also pick up Cedar Camp Road 12N12 south of Orleans and follow it all the way
to 12N13. From there the directions to the film site and Louse Camp are the same as coming in
on 15N01. Is a little steep and narrow in places and it's not paved all the way, so this an option
only in good weather and with the right vehicle.

One final important note, there are two roads shown on the Forest Service map that are no longer
open. There is a section of 12N10 shown running due north from Louse Camp to 13N01. I think
this is way Todd Neiss drove in 2002. This section is completely closed to traffic, berms have
been bulldozer at both ends. Also on the map, there's 13N01D running from Louse Camp north
west
to 13N01, this is closed too.

High quality image... Click to Enlarge.

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This blog is copyright and all that jazz, save for occasional small elements borrowed for "research" and information or satirical purposes only, 2003-2013, Bigfoot Books and Steven Streufert. Borrowings for non-commercial purposes will be tolerated without the revenge of Angry Bigfoot, if notification, credit, citation and a kindly web-link are given, preferably after contacting us and saying, Hello, like a normal person would before taking a cup of salt. No serious rip-offs of our material for vulgar commercial gain will be tolerated without major BF stomping action coming down on you, hu-man. 

Thursday, January 17, 2013

VIDEOS from THE BLUFF CREEK TRAIL CAMERA SURVEY

Robert Leiterman and Rowdy Kelley at the crook in the creek near the
first frame, Jamie S. up on the sandbar near the Patterson camera position.
BIGFOOT'S BLOG
Mid-January, 2013 Edition

The members of The Bluff Creek Film Site Project currently have many high-grade game cameras mounted along Bluff Creek around the site where the Patterson-Gimlin Film was shot in 1967. This was a publicly funded research project, which brought in twice its goal in donations, enabling us to double our area coverage. Don't think of hoaxing us... the area is not only closed and completely snowed in, but we also have secret cameras monitoring the entrance to the are that will surely document any mischief. See below for the new VIDEOS showing the implementation of the cameras. We will have further results once we can retrieve the camera cards, either by helicopter or once the snowdrifts blocking the roads clear in the spring.

Read the first article posted about Bluff Creek Trail Camera Survey here:
http://bigfootbooksblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/bluff-creek-film-site-projects-trail.html
See final funding results here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/p/201772

PART ONE:


PART TWO:


PART THREE:
 

See Rowdy Kelley's BLUFF CREEK YOUTUBE SITE here for more cool area videos, including some grand footage of black bears:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVvj3IYinKJDkoj8hfX2hxQ?feature=plcp
Updates and results will be officially published here on this blog, but also on the BLUFF CREEK PORTAL site (currently under construction), run by Jamie S.
https://sites.google.com/site/bluffcreekportal/

Here are a few more photos...
Tracking dog, with Rowdy and Robert
Rowdy with dual camera coverage
Jamie S. and his baby
Jakob B. and the Big Tree
Bluff Creek PGF Site, seen from dirt road above.
All photos above by Steven Streufert, seen here with
what we jokingly thought of as a "Bigfoot Shelter".
This photo by Jamie S.
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ANGRY BIGFOOT SPEAKS!

ME NOT TALKING. ME TIRED OF TALK, TALK, TALK, HU-MAN.

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This blog is copyright and all that jazz, save for occasional small elements borrowed for "research" and information or satirical purposes only, 2003-2013, Bigfoot Books and Steven Streufert. Borrowings for non-commercial purposes will be tolerated without the revenge of Angry Bigfoot, if notification, credit, citation and a kindly web-link are given, preferably after contacting us and saying, Hello, like a normal person would before taking a cup of salt. No serious rip-offs of our material for vulgar commercial gain will be tolerated without major BF stomping action coming down on you, hu-man.